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| + | What Semiase was saying about recordings and escort beam seem like a sublime threat addressed to the group members, intended to direct them to act as what Pleiarens want them to. A sublime threat is tactically better than a spell like the one Elsi got (see http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_124, Line 62-65). Ethically Elsi does not have to be responsible for her departure to America, since her action did not come from her own decision. While she was being under Pleiarens's spell her action was just a manifestation of Pleiaren's decision based on Pleiarens's consideration. If anything goes wrong with Elsi in his travel to America, the Pleiarens bear the responsibility to explain it to mister Billy. The case is different with the group members sublimely threated by Semiase. They were not being under any spell. They still have liberties to accept or to refuse Pleiarens's directives. So ethically the threated group members have to be responsible for their decisions related to the mission, eventhough they are also based on Pleiarens's consideration imbued with Pleiarens's interpretations of the data they got from their surveillance system. If anything goes wrong with the group members, they themselves should be responsible to explain it to mister Billy. It seems that simple to me, but, heck, maybe it is just because I do not notice its complexity. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 04:21, 19 September 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | The case of Engelbert and Bernadette is quite problematic. Their current personalities are not their previous personalities, although they are close friends now like they were hundreds of years ago. What has happened between them on one of their previous lives does not have to be repeated in their current life. The fact that they were not spouses does not indicate that they will not be spouses in their current life. Just as the fact that people who were spouses in one of their previous lives (such as mister Billy and Elsi) does not indicate that they will be spouses again in their current life as different personalities. This case should be contemplated by all Earth human life forms in general, and the visitors of Future of Mankind in particular. | ||
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| + | PS: I am sorry that I do not have time to properly contemplate the case. There are many other things that I should contemplate right now. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 05:38, 21 September 2011 (BST) | ||
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Markvd said ...
Alive said ...
What Semiase was saying about recordings and escort beam seem like a sublime threat addressed to the group members, intended to direct them to act as what Pleiarens want them to. A sublime threat is tactically better than a spell like the one Elsi got (see http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_124, Line 62-65). Ethically Elsi does not have to be responsible for her departure to America, since her action did not come from her own decision. While she was being under Pleiarens's spell her action was just a manifestation of Pleiaren's decision based on Pleiarens's consideration. If anything goes wrong with Elsi in his travel to America, the Pleiarens bear the responsibility to explain it to mister Billy. The case is different with the group members sublimely threated by Semiase. They were not being under any spell. They still have liberties to accept or to refuse Pleiarens's directives. So ethically the threated group members have to be responsible for their decisions related to the mission, eventhough they are also based on Pleiarens's consideration imbued with Pleiarens's interpretations of the data they got from their surveillance system. If anything goes wrong with the group members, they themselves should be responsible to explain it to mister Billy. It seems that simple to me, but, heck, maybe it is just because I do not notice its complexity.
---- M -- 04:21, 19 September 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
The case of Engelbert and Bernadette is quite problematic. Their current personalities are not their previous personalities, although they are close friends now like they were hundreds of years ago. What has happened between them on one of their previous lives does not have to be repeated in their current life. The fact that they were not spouses does not indicate that they will not be spouses in their current life. Just as the fact that people who were spouses in one of their previous lives (such as mister Billy and Elsi) does not indicate that they will be spouses again in their current life as different personalities. This case should be contemplated by all Earth human life forms in general, and the visitors of Future of Mankind in particular.
PS: I am sorry that I do not have time to properly contemplate the case. There are many other things that I should contemplate right now.
---- M -- 05:38, 21 September 2011 (BST)
..........hundreds of contacts later, time sure does fly by.:) I bet they use there time machine to go on extended vacations. I guess helping others does pay off.
--Markvd 21:09, 16 September 2011 (BST)